BILL GATES has issued a terrifying warning of a “bioterrorist smallpox pandemic

BILL GATES has issued a terrifying warning of a “bioterrorist smallpox pandemic” which could apparently arise if Governments don’t use lessons learned from COVID-19 to prepare wisely.

Bill Gates’s warning is a double entendre and actually intended as a threat, implying that if we are not good little compliant boys and girls who wear their masks and take their genocidal vaccines and go along with every fascist protocol of the UN and its agencies and their fascist minions in our own national governments and health agencies, we’re going to get hit by another bioweapon at the hands of Bill and his cronies in the World Economic Forum. There’s only one way to stop this Luciferian cabal and that is – stop them dead in their tracks.

BOMBSHELL: Video Emerges Where Fauci and Others Planned for a “Universal mRNA Flu Vaccine”

by Brian Shilhavy

Editor, Health Impact News

Last night Alex Jones of did a special broadcast regarding an October, 2019 video that they had just become aware of that was a panel discussion hosted by the Milken Institute discussing the need for a Universal Flu Vaccine.

The video clip that they played of this event was a 1 minute and 51 second dialogue between the moderator, Michael Specter, a journalist who is a New Yorker staff writer and also an adjunct professor of bioengineering at Stanford University, Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Rick Bright, the director of HHS Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA).


In this short clip, which was extracted from the hour-long panel discussion, Anthony Fauci explains that bringing a new, untested kind of vaccine like an mRNA vaccine, would take at least a decade (“if everything goes perfectly”) to go through proper trials and be approved by the FDA.
He would know, because he had been trying to do it for about a decade already by then (October, 2019), trying to develop an mRNA based vaccine for HIV.

But now they were discussing something much bigger than just a vaccine for AIDS patients. They are talking about a “Universal Flu Vaccine” that everyone would have to take – a huge market for Big Pharma!

The smoking gun on Dr Anthony Fauci?

Rick Bright, the director of HHS Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), then speaks and states that what could happen is that “an entity of excitement that is completely disruptive and is not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes” could change that.
Here is the short clip which I put on our Bitchute and Rumble channels last night:
Alex Jones spent over 50 minutes covering this on his show last night, and it looks like he covered it on his show today as well.

I have not had a chance to watch these yet, as I went and found the original 1 hour panel discussion video, and spent the day listening to and analyzing that, so that I could supply this report to our readers.
Joining Fauci, Rick Bright, and Michael Specter at this event were:
• Margaret Hamburg, Foreign Secretary, National Academy of Medicine
• Bruce Gellin, President, Global Immunization, Sabin Vaccine Institute
• Casey Wright, CEO, FluLab
In short, this panel discussion focused on what they perceived as the need for a universal flu vaccine, but they admitted that the old way of producing vaccines was not sufficient for their purposes, and that they needed some kind of global event where many people were dying to be able to roll out a new mRNA vaccine to be tested on the public.

They all agreed that the annual flu virus was not scary enough to create an event that would convince people to get a universal vaccine.
And as we now know today, about 2 years after this event, that “terrifying virus” that was introduced was the COVID-19 Sars virus.
And so now we know why the flu just “disappeared” in the 2020-21 flu season. It was simply replaced by COVID-19, in a worldwide cleverly planned “pandemic” to roll out the world’s first universal mRNA vaccines.

This was always the goal, and previous efforts through various influenzas, AIDS, Ebola, and other “viruses” were all unsuccessful in leading to the development of a universal vaccine to inject into the entire world’s population.
Margaret Hamburg stated regarding getting a “Universal Vaccine” into the market:
“It’s time to stop talking, and it’s time to act.”
“I think it is also because we haven’t had a sense of urgency.”
Michael Specter asks:
“Do we need lots of people to die for that sense of urgency to occur?”
Hamburg replies that: “There are already lots of people dying” from the flu each year.
Bruce Gellin states that basically people just are not afraid enough of the term “the flu.”
There are so many things that are revealed about how Big Pharma and government health authorities think in this panel discussion. For example, they bemoan the fact that if they do too good of a job in public health, then they lose funding to develop products that fight viruses.
Michael Specter states: “It seems to me that one of the curses of the public health world is, if you guys do your job well, everyone goes along well and healthy.”
Hamburg: “And they cut your funding.”
Rick Bright complains that the yearly distribution of flu vaccines is inefficient in terms of collecting data, and in the process actually admits that some vaccines just don’t work well:
“We distribute 150 million doses of the seasonal (flu) vaccines every year, we don’t even know how many people are being vaccinated from the doses that are delivered to the people, which doses they got, and what the real outcome was, so that we can learn from that knowledge base on how to optimize or improve our vaccine. So there are opportunities that we have today…
I think if we uncloaked the poorest performing vaccines in the market place today, it might be very revealing to tell us which of the technologies we have, and allow us to go deeper into those technologies to determine why they are more effective. There are vaccine licenses today that are more effective. I think that we’re just afraid to admit the truth.”
So much for the public mantra that is espoused by Big Pharma and government that the “science” of vaccines is “settled,” and that they are completely “safe and effective.”
Casey Wright repeats the mantra that was publicized every year, before COVID, about just how deadly the flu virus was: “650,000 people die every year from the flu.”
As we have documented many times over the past decade here at Health Impact News, this is simply not true. This is an estimate because actual laboratory confirmed cases of influenza each year are very small, probably less than 1000 in the U.S.
Most flu-like symptoms are never tested in a lab to determine what is causing the symptoms. They were always just classified as “flu” to inflate the numbers to justify the very profitable flu shot each year. Some of our previous coverage of this issue:

CDC Inflates Flu Death Stats to Sell More Flu Vaccines

Did 80,000 People Really Die from the Flu Last Year? Inflating Flu Death Estimates to Sell Flu Shots

CDC Inflates Flu Death Stats to Sell More Flu Vaccines
Did 80,000 People Really Die from the Flu Last Year? Inflating Flu Death Estimates to Sell Flu Shots
So as they have inflated the COVID-19 cases since last year, they are simply continuing their policy of inflating flu numbers each year in order to sell their vaccines. They obviously could not have done both last year, as the public would have quickly seen that the math doesn’t work.
And yet, so many in the public bought the lie that the COVID-19 measures got rid of the flu, but not COVID-19.
Ultimately, this panel discussion can be boiled down to: Nobody wants to fund research for a universal flu vaccine. So how do we change that? Create a pandemic of fear over the flu (but they couldn’t call it the “flu” because people are no longer afraid of influenza, and the fear over “AIDS” had also subsided).
Fauci then addressed this “perception problem.”
There’s this perception (about the flu), if it’s so serious, how come people get the flu each year and it isn’t a catastrophe?
When you’re dealing with a disease like HIV, if you get HIV, it’s serious. Whether you’re young, whether you’re middle aged, or whether you’re old. If you get cancer, that’s bad. Whether you’re young, whether it’s intermediate… whereas if it’s influenza, some people, they go throughout life and it doesn’t impact them at all.
There isn’t anyone who is afraid of influenza. You go into a focus group and you say: Are you afraid of getting HIV if you’re at risk? Oh, absolutely.
Are you afraid of getting cancer? Absolutely. Are you afraid of the flu? Don’t bother me.
That’s the reality of how people perceive flu.
And it is going to be very difficult to change that, unless you do it from within and say, I don’t care what your perception is, we’re going to address the problem, in a disruptive way….
Specter then asks:
In the long run, over time, if the 2009 pandemic had been much more deadly, would that have ended up being a better thing for humanity?
Everyone is silent as they obviously were thinking about how to answer that, and Specter says: “Come on gang.”
Fauci ultimately answers and says “No” because there were other years that were worse than 2009 and it didn’t change a thing in terms of creating a universal vaccine.
Hamburg then states:
The sad truth is that when there is a major crisis, it focuses attention and usually resources and some significant mobilization follows.
We need, #1, this time to be different, and we also need to really organize ourselves in a way where there will be accountability for sustained action, and not just response.
Specter states:
Craig Venter, who is a controversial person, but interesting to me, has written that he thinks we ought to have a vaccine, such that, if you take off in a plane from Hong Kong, and are infected, by the time your plane lands in New York, there ought to be a vaccine assembled and deliverable to you.
How crazy is that? How far are we from that? Are we ever going to get there?
Bright replies:
I’m not going to say how far away, but I don’t think that’s too crazy.
I think that if we move towards the era of synthetic-based vaccines, I think we remove the dependencies of thinking the vaccine has to be grown into something else, an egg, a cell, or insect cell – any type of dependency embryo.
If we can move into more synthetic, the nucleic acid based, messenger RNA based, those sequences can be rapidly shared around the world.
He then goes on to talk about using a 3D printer to print out a “vaccine patch” that people use to administer the “vaccine.”
We also learn in this panel discussion why Anthony Fauci is so opposed to natural immunity, because natural immunity for influenza, according to his view, translates to an immune response against other strains of a particular influenza virus, which will interfere with what they are trying to do with the vaccines.
That is why he wants to inject infants as young as 6 months old with a universal vaccine, as he states here, to prevent that “confused” natural immunity from happening before the child grows older.
So the big question that this panel was tackling, was how do they implement their strategies, and what is holding them back?
Certainly the government/regulatory issue is a big one, and now two years later we can see exactly how they did that, by controlling the FDA and the CDC to promote the “killer virus pandemic” narrative as long as possible to justify taking emergency measures that short-cut the normal procedures for bringing novel, new drugs to the market.
It also clearly explains the vicious opposition to existing, cheap therapeutics that very easily treated what is really just the seasonal flu “virus,” which stood in their way of rolling out a universal vaccine.
Casey Wright then made a rather remarkable comment about “philanthropy” and its role in this effort:
There’s a potential role for philanthropy to play there… we are in a position to take on a little more risk (she smiles eerily as she says this), to be open to a little bit more experimentation and methods in how we do things. That’s what I think is unique about FluLab, and is unique about other philanthropies.
I think they can play a really important role there, and fund a set of bolder, maybe earlier promising concepts.
Bingo! Think Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and other “philanthropies” that are “unburdened” by regulatory issues as they spend their money pretty much unchecked, with no accountability, all in the name of “science” and the “greater good.”
We have seen most certainly how the Gates Foundation has done this in India by luring poor people into highly questionable ethical experimentations on vaccines, such as the Gardasil vaccine which we have covered so often over the years here at Health Impact News.
Bruce Gellin then talks about a report published by his organization that called for an “entity” that would make these decisions and bring everyone together to collaborate to create this universal vaccine, and eliminate those who oppose.
The report was published in 2019, and here is the press release.
He states:
They called for this “entity” which is the collaboration we talked about. They called for the need to infuse innovation, to find some of these people who we don’t know might be part of the problem to come into this. And to try to think about how we talk about this differently so that your stomach flu doesn’t keep us from making progress. (everyone laughs…)
I assume that this “entity” is Gellin’s group, The Sabin-Aspen Vaccine Science & Policy Group.
Today, this is the main group fighting “vaccine hesitancy” and trying to silence any dissenting voices that get in their way of rolling out this universal vaccine, which of course we now know is the COVID-19 vaccine.
Online Misinformation about Vaccines
Watch the entire panel discussion to learn just how arrogant these people are. This is on our Bitchute and Rumble channels.
Your Life Only has Value as a Lab Rat to These Satanic Tyrants

This is one of the most explosive videos I have ever watched that takes us into the mindset of the Globalist Tyrants and their greedy desire to control the human race by means of vaccines.
As you watch this, you need to ask yourself: Who appointed these people as caretakers of humanity to decide what is good for the entire human race?
At the very core of this problem of medical tyranny is a fundamental difference of how one views life.
This panel represents the Luciferian, Satanic worldview that completely excludes God as the Creator of Life.
When they talk about the “deficiencies” of natural immunity, this is a direct Satanic attack on the human race, created in God’s image, and this has always been the case behind the “science” of vaccines.
This worldview represented by this panel believes that they are a higher form of life that can dictate to the masses how to live their lives, because these people honestly believe that they are tasked with saving humanity, and saving the planet, and that everyone else is too ignorant to make these decisions.
They are psychopaths driven by greed and the desire to control. We only see their public side, but they are human beings just like everyone else, and if we could see how they live outside of their public life, they would probably never be able to maintain their positions of power, because it would be plain to see just how evil they are.
Look at Anthony Fauci, for example. Does he look like an 80-year-old man? What does he do to stay looking so young?
We know that the rich and famous are addicted to pursuing youth and maintaining their power, and that many do so by consuming “young blood,” the blood taken from young people, including what is reportedly the very addictive drug “adrenochrome” harvested from babies just before they are executed. See:
“Young Blood” – The Emerging Market for Products Made from the Blood of Children
They think nothing of people dying in mass for the sake of “science” and developing their universal vaccines. This universal vaccine is something they have worked on for decades now, and their dreams are finally coming to fruition through COVID-19.
I have been covering this issue for over a decade now, and nothing in this panel discussion surprised me at all.
The only way to control the global population for their own agendas is to control their health, and they have learned after decades of failure that it is nearly impossible to develop a biological weapon capable of infecting and spreading through the entire population.
The reason for this is because God’s natural immune system is just too strong, as it adapts and overcomes these diseases, as a built-in safe guard for the human race.
I would suspect that pretty much ALL of the past historical “pandemics” have been failed biological weapon programs that they have tried to develop. In the end, they have learned that the only way to infect everyone on the face of the earth, is to inject them with a poison via vaccines.
This has ALWAYS been the goal of the vaccine movement, even if most in the movement were not aware of it, and were foolish enough to believe that vaccines actually conferred health upon people.
REAL health is not something that can be purchased from “health authorities.” It is a free gift given to us by our Creator, and the most healthy people on the planet today are those very few individuals who recognize this truth, and stay as far away from pharmaceutical products as they can knowing they are poisons, and make every effort to eat clean, whole foods as God created them, and breathe fresh air, something that is getting more and more difficult to do as they pollute the atmosphere with their chemicals in geoengineering.
There are “natural medicines” that God has supplied us to use when our immune system is not balanced properly, and they are found in nature and generally available to all, because they cannot be patented, since they are God-made, and not man-made.
We must resist these Satanic tyrants! Your health is the most important thing God has given to you. Without your health, you are at their mercy and enslaved by their medical system.
Without your health you cannot love your spouse, you cannot produce children, you cannot live your life to its fullest and accomplish the purpose that God placed you on this earth to accomplish.
The mark of the beast prophesied in the Bible that is necessary to take in order to participate in the economy is here, and it is the COVID-19 vaccine, and this video is just further proof to this fact.

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26,041 Deaths 2,448,362 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Union’s Database as Slovenia Suspends J&J Shot After Death of 20-Year-Old Student

Whistleblower Lawsuit! Government Medicare Data Shows 48,465 DEAD Following COVID Shots – Remdesivir Drug has 25% Death Rate!

Australia Records 10X More Deaths Following COVID-19 Shots than Recorded Deaths Following ALL Vaccines for Past 20 Years

UK Medicine Regulator Confirms There Have Been Four Times as Many Deaths Due to the Covid-19 Vaccines in 8 Months than Deaths Due to All Other Vaccines Combined in 20 Years

Mockers of Anti-Vaxxers Continue to Die After Taking a COVID-19 Injection

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COVID Shots Are Killing and Crippling Teens in Record Numbers – Young Children Are Next

See the Full List of Tragic Deaths and Injuries Here!




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The Most Important Truth about the Coming “New World Order” Almost Nobody is Discussing

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The Seal and Mark of God is Far More Important than the “Mark of the Beast” – Are You Prepared for What’s Coming?

What Happens When a Holy and Righteous God Gets Angry? Lessons from History and the Prophet Jeremiah

The Satanic Roots to Modern Medicine – The Mark of the Beast?

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God’s name erased from Scroll of Life

In 2005, a highly classified presentation was given to DoD officials and military brass at the Pentagon about the top-secret FunVax Program.

A video of a short segment of that Pentagon briefing was secretly taken by a whistleblower which can be found here:


There are at least 3 essential takeaways from that extremely revealing and radioactive presentation made by an experienced bioweapon scientist who appeared to be the point man for the FunVax project. As follows:
(1) The U.S. Military biological weapons program has been creating a vaccine that is specifically formulated to immunize targeted individuals and populations against the expression of the God gene, also known as vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2). The suppression of VMAT2 has been a primary goal of US biological weapon laboratories for decades with the ostensible purpose of neutralizing terrorists who act on their religious fanaticism. However, the real goal is to inoculate people the world over against the inclination toward spiritual pursuits and/or mystical experiences (see the screenshot below). Some deep insiders have even surmised that the real purpose of the FunVax is to permanently stunt soul development.

(2) The most practical form that a VMAT2 vaccination program can take in light of the necessity for extreme secrecy is a respiratory virus, which could be covertly released throughout any city or nation or region of the world. This would eliminate the problem posed by those societies that are averse to vaccinations administered by injection. Religious cultures, in general, are increasingly fearful of the true intention behind immunization shots. Many folks have not only experienced and/or witnessed adverse vaccine side effects, they are also rightly skeptical of their efficacy.

(3) The proposed FunVax vaccine would be aerosolized in a manner similar to the systematic, wide area and indiscriminate spraying of chemtrails over the unsuspecting population below. Because the U.S. Armed Forces have forever denied the existence of chemtrails, most citizenries have been conditioned to falsely believe they are contrails. In this way, aerosolized vaccines can be furtively administered to the citizenry of any nation that illicitly permits chemical geoengineering operations.


Senator Rubios Interrogation of Fauci

In a recent Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on NIH funding, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) asked Dr. Anthony Fauci about the origins of COVID-19 and past statements by him which downplayed the lab-leak theory. The senator wanted to know why a natural occurrence theory of origin was favored over a lab leak, and wondered what the precedent for that was. The transcript of the interview is below:
Senator Rubio: Thanks all of you for being here. I think I’ll direct this to Dr. Fauci, but I welcome his answer. I just want to go through what we do know. We’ve heard a lot about what we don’t know. So, here are the things we do know, okay? So, SARS-1, we identified the host animal within four months. MERS I believe we identified the host animal within nine months. It’s now been 15 and a half, 16 months, and we’ve still not seen, and China’s not produced any evidence of the host animal that transmitted CoViD-19 to a human. Um, we know that China has a history of lab accidents. I think Dr. Fauci you answered Senator Graham’s question, I think he phrased it, “Has there ever been a pandemic that came out of a laboratory and the answer was, No. But we do know of outbreaks that came out of a…out of a laboratory. I believe, uh, back in 2004, two researchers in Beijing were infected doing some research on SARS and it led to an outbreak. China has a history of lab accidents. Um, this outbreak happened in a city that happened to be home coincidentally of a lab which we know involved in extensive research. And what they so is they take this naturally occurring virus, and they manipulate it, and change it to make it infectious to humans. We know that they do that there. They published about it. And it also happened in a city and a lab where a Rutgers biosecurity raised concerns about its safety, and our diplomats in 2018 were cabling back to Washington expressing concern about this. So, I take all those facts together, right? SARS, we knew the host in four months; MERS we knew the host in nine; we still don’t know the host for CoViD even though—and China’s not being transparent about it—even though they have a vested interest in producing the host, so they can put all of this down. Um, in a lab that we know is involved in changing viruses synthetically so that they become infectious for humans, um, in a lab that diplomats have told us is unsafe, in a country with a history of lab leaks. And by the way in a virus that we know can be synthetically created because the Swiss just did it, the Swiss created an exact replica of this virus in the lab, for purposes of answering it. All of these facts were available to us last May, last April, why—I’ll start with Dr. Fauci, why did you dismiss the lab leak theory as…as credible?
Dr. Fauci: I have always said that the high likelihood is that this is a natural occurrence. I didn’t dismiss anything. I just said it’s a high likelihood that this is a natural occurrence from the environment of an animal reservoir that we have not yet identified. And I still maintain that, but as I just mentioned in the response to other questions that since you don’t know 100% about that because no one knows, including me, 100% what the origin is, is the reason why we’re in favor of further investigation.
Senator Rubio: Well, given everything I’ve decided, and if anything I’ve decided isn’t correct, I hope I’ll be corrected. I’m relying—obviously it is not my field of study—so I’m relying on what other experts have published. What is the basis for the high likelihood, what is the basis for the conclusion that it is likelier to have been naturally occurring than a lab accident? I asked this specific question to the director of national intelligence, and how I posed it, “Is it not true that it is the assessment that they are equally likely based on our information that we have. So, as I outline all of these things, is she wrong when she answered my, Yes? And based on everything. I’ve decided why,,,what is it that we’re basing the higher likelihood of naturally occurring, is it simply because that’s all we’ve ever seen in the past?
Dr, Fauci: Well, we have historically experience that happened with SARS, CoV-1; it happened with MERS; it happened with HIV; it happened with virtually all the influenza pandemics. So, the historical basis for pandemics evolving naturally from an animal reservoir is extremely strong. And it’s for that reason that we felt that something similar like this has a much higher likelihood, But again, getting back to what I said, and let me repeat so there is no lack of clarity in that. No one knows, not even I, 100% at this point, which is the reason why we are in favor of further investigation.
Senator Rubio: But going back to precedent. Precedent require them to be similar, the difference between this one and that one is—and as I said, four months we knew the host for SARS, nine months we knew the host for MERS. China has all the incentive in the world to produce this host, and hasn’t done so. And then you add up all these other things. I mean is it just a coincidence it happened in the city that’s doing this kind of research, which by the way is controversial. I know you have not been supportive of it. It’s controversial. It’s not widely accepted as good. My whole point is that there are people out there who had Facebook posts taken down, were called cooks, conspiracy theorists for publicly a year ago what we now say may be possible. And I think those people deserve an apology at a minimum. Thank you.
Forbes Breaking News, “Why Did You Dismiss The Lab-Leak Theory?”: Rubio Grills Fauci On Past Statements Of COVID-19 Origin”, May 27, 2021,


U.S. Senators Circle the Wagons on Fauci

Rand Paul recently interrogated Fauci on his role in the authorship and release of the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon. The interrogation was spirited and Paul did his best to circle the wagons on Fauci in the interview, but like most psychopaths, Fauci was unflappable and unmoved even at the most heated moments of the interrogation, being devoid of emotion or empathy, while being well-trained in the art of obfuscation, deflection, and concealment. The simple fact is that he is well-trained deep cover Deep State agent, who was handpicked to be the last on the suspect list simply because he is in charge of the U.S. government’s response to this 21st century plague. Who would have ever thought it would be him? Who would have ever believed it possible? However, Rand Paul’s undisputable facts, presented in the course of interrogation, make it clear that a transfer of funds was made to fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Sen. Rand Paul: Dr. Fauci, we don’t know whether the pandemic started in a lab in Wuhan or evolved naturally, but we should want to know. Three million people have died from this pandemic and that should cause us to explore all possibilities. Instead, government authorities, self-interested gain-of-function research say there’s nothing to see here. Gain-of-function research, as you know, is juicing up naturally occurring animal viruses to infect humans. To arrive at the truth, the U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan virology institute was experimenting to enhance the coronavirus’s ability to infect humans. Juicing up superviruses is not new. Scientists in the U.S. have long known how to mutate animal viruses to infect humans. For years, Dr. Ralph Baric, a virologist in the U.S. has been collaborating with Dr. Xie Zhengli of the Wuhan virology institute, sharing his discoveries about how to create superviruses. This gain-of-function research has been funded by the NIH. The collaboration between the U.S. and the Wuhan virology institute continues. Drs. Baric and Xie worked together to insert bat virus spike protein into the backbone of the deadly SARS virus. And then used this manmade supervirus to infect human airway cells. Think about that for a moment. The SARS virus had a 15% mortality. We’re fighting a pandemic that has about a 1% mortality. Can you imagine if a SARS virus that’s been juiced up, and had viral proteins added to it to the spike protein, if that were released accidentally?

Dr. Fauci, do you still support funding of the NIH funding of the lab in Wuhan?

Dr. Fauci: Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever, and does not now, fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Sen. Rand Paul: Do they fund Dr. Barrett?

Dr. Fauci: We do not fund gain-of-function…

Sen. Rand Paul: Do you find Dr. Barrett’s research?

Dr. Fauci: Dr. Baric is not doing gain-of-function research, and if it is, it is according to the guidelines, and it is being conducted in North Carolina and not…

Sen. Rand Paul: You don’t think the bat virus spike protein that he got from the Wuhan lab institute into the SARS virus is gain-of-function?

Dr. Fauci: It is not…

Sen Rand Paul: You would be in the minority because at least other scientists have signed a statement that from the Cambridge Working Group saying that it is gain of function.

Dr. Fauci: Well, it is not. And if you look at the grant, and you look at the progress reports, it is not gain-of-function, despite the fact that people tweet that…

Sen, Rand Paul: So do you still support sending money to the Wuhan virology institute?

Dr, Fauci: We do not now send money to the Wuhan virology…

Sen. Rand Paul: Do you support sending money? We did, under your tutelage, we were sending money, sending it through EcoHealth—it was a sub-agency and sub-grant. Do you support that the money from NIH was going to the Wuhan institute?

Dr. Fauci: Let me explain to you why that was done. The SARS-CoV-1 originated in bats in China. It would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been infected,

Sen. Rand Paul: Or perhaps it would be possible to send it to the Chinese government that we might not be able to trust with this knowledge and with this incredibly dangerous virus. Government scientists like yourself, who favor this gain-of-function research…

Dr. Fauci: I don’t favor gain-of-function research in China. You are saying things that are not correct.

Sen Rand Paul: Government defenders of gain-of-function, such as yourself, say that CoViD-19 mutations were random and not designed by man, but interestingly the technique that Dr. Baric developed forces mutations by serial passage through cell culture so that the mutations appear to be natural. In fact, Dr. Baric named the technique the no-see-it technique because the mutations appear naturally.

Nicholas Baker, of New York Magazine, said, “No one would know if the virus had been fabricated in a laboratory or grown in nature. Government authorities in the U,S., including yourself, unequivocally deny that CoViD-19 could have escaped a lab, but even Dr. Xie in Wuhan wasn’t so sure. According to Nicholas Baker. Dr. Xie wondered, ‘Could this new virus have come from her own laboratory?’ She checked her records frantically and found no matches. “That really took a load off my mind,” she said. “I had not slept for days.”

The director of the gain-of-function research at Wuhan couldn’t sleep because she was terrified that it might be in her lab. Dr. Baric, an advocate of gain-of-function research, admits, “The main problem with the institute of virology is that the outbreak occurred in close proximity. What are the odds?” Baric responded, “Could you rule out a laboratory escape? The answer in this case is probably not.”

Will you in front of this group categorically say that the CoViD-19 could not have occurred through serial passage in a laboratory?

Dr. Fauci: I do not have any accounting of what the Chinese may have done, and I am fully in favor of any further investigation of what went on in China. However, I will repeat again, the NIH and NIAID categorically has not funded gain-of-function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Sen Rand Paul: You do support it in the U.S. We have eleven labs doing it, and you have allowed it here. We have a committee to do it here. The committee is granted every exemption. You’re fooling with Mother Nature here. You’re allowing superviruses to be created with a 15% mortality. It’s very dangerous, and it’s a huge mistake to share this with China, and it’s a huge mistake to allow this to continue in the United States, And we should be very careful to investigate where this virus came from.

Dr. Fauci: I fully agree that you should investigate where the virus came from, but again, we have not funded gain-of-function research on this virus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. No matter how many times you say it, it didn’t happen.

Sen. Rand Paul: There was research done with Dr. Xie and Dr. Baric. They have collaborated on gain-of-function research, where they had enhanced the SARS virus to infect human airway cells. And they did it by merging a new spike protein on it. That is gain of function. That is joint research between the Wuhan institute and Dr. Baric. You can’t deny it.

Chair: Sen, Paul, your time has expired. Dr. Fauci, I will let you respond to that. We need to move on.

Dr. Fauci: Excuse me?

Chair: I will allow you to respond to that, and then we’ll move on.

Dr. Fauci: Yeah, I mean I just wanted to say, I don’t know how many times I can say it, Madam Chair, we did not fund gain-of-function research to be conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.[i]

There are some concerning statements made by Dr. Fauci in this interview that need to be examined.

In a follow up interview, Fauci offered a more comprehensive explanation:

Dr. Fauci: We had a big scare with SARS-CoViD-1 back in 2002-2003, where that particular virus unquestionably went from a bat to an intermediate host to start an epidemic and a pandemic that resulted in 8,000 cases and close to 800 deaths. It would have been almost a dereliction of our duty if we didn’t study this. And the only way you could study these things is you’ve got to go where the action is. So I often say somewhat tongue in cheek, ‘You don’t want to study bats in Fairfax County, Virginia to find out what the animal-human interface is that might lead to a jumping of species. So we had a modest collaboration with very respectable Chinese scientists, who were world experts on coronavirus. And we did that through a sub-grant from a larger grant to EcoHealth. The sub-grant was about $600,000 over a period of five years. So it was a modest amount. And the purpose of it was to study the animal-human interface to do surveillance, and to determine if these bat viruses were even capable of transmitting infection to humans.[ii]

[i] “Fauci and Rand Paul clash over SUPER VIRUS CONSPIRACY,” May 11, 2021,
[ii] Fauci interview on C-Span featured in “Fauci admits ‘modest’ NIH funding of Wuhan lab but denies ‘gain of function’”